1941 Mercury KB-3 Spark Plug Cover Confusion

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  • Buccaneer

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    #271650

    The KB-3 project motor I’m working on was missing the spark plug cover,
    but the stripped down KB-? (missing tag) had one on it.
    The water line and fitting was missing on the motor that had the cover, but
    I don’t see how the cover would have worked on it with the fitting and line
    in place, nor on the KB-3 motor I want to use it on.

    With the 90 deg. fitting screwed into the cylinder, there’s not enough clearance
    for the cover. I thought that perhaps my cover was meant for a “twin” cylinder,
    but when I looked at my KD-4 twin in storage, it has a cover that’s different,
    and perhaps would actually work on the KB-3, having a notch in the area
    where the rubber wedge goes.

    I “may” be able to notch out the cover to make it work, but am wondering
    does anyone have a good photo of a KB-3 with the correct cover in place?

    Thanks.

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    #271667



    In my files I found this picture of KD-3S
    if that will help ya.
    Tubs


    Buccaneer

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    #271673

    Tubs, I see no “tell tale” exiting the back of the cylinder nor
    anywhere else on your photo.
    That’s how my cover looks like currently though……. not
    sure what’s going on!
    I do see that one is also missing the rubber wedge (as Louis calls it)
    between the plug cover and gas tank.
    Thanks.

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    Boonie

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    #271682

    I have a friend that makes those spark plug covers ( bra cups). Just finished a KD 4 with ones he made for me.

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    green-thumbs

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    #271686

    I hang my head in shame, I assumed. I checked the New Parts List and could not find sparkplug covers. Normally that is a good source. Then I looked at assembly charts for KD3 and KD4…KD3 singles use Spark Plug cover M-339  KD4 twins use upper M-337 and Lower M-338, So there are 3 Spark Plug Covers involved. KD3 uses a small fitting with a short section of copper tubing that loops around the spark plug and out thru a notch at bottom. The PreWar singles seem to used the same Upper Spark Plug cover as Twins as the all seem to exit Port side same as twins. The Post War KD3 set up is neater and uses lesst tubing. KE3 changes again to a longer tube that runs doown Starbord side of powerhead. due to sheet metal cowling.

    I still feel Kiekhaefer would use what they had in a limited production KB3, so my money is on use of Upper Cylinder Spark Plug Cover… I can not prove it.

    Louis

     

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    Buccaneer

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    #271694

    Louis, very interesting! So in Tubs photo of a KD-3S the tell – tale may
    indeed be in place, inside of the plug cover, and perhaps barely exiting
    the hole in the bottom of the cup.

    I assumed that the hole in the bottom of the cup was for the spark plug wire?

    I’ll look mine over again tomorrow, but I don’t see any reason why I couldn’t
    notch out the area where the rubber wedge sits, for the 90 fitting to exit
    the cup.
    Not that I have a rubber wedge, but if so, would it still fit in the cup with
    the plumbing in the way? I never did find anyone reproducing them for sale.

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    Buccaneer

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    #271695

    I have a friend that makes those spark plug covers ( bra cups). Just finished a KD 4 with ones he made for me.

    Boonie, if those cups are “repros”, they look excellent!
    Nice looking motor too!

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    billw

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    #271696

    Sorry I don’t have the exact picture of how it should be; but these three might help. The FIRST thumbnail picture,the one where there is no cover and no tube, that is the fitting location of a KD3 that is in the proper orientation but missing its copper tubing. There’s supposed to be a very short piece, soldered into the brass fitting, that curves around the spark plug, under the bra cover and exits as shown in my THIRD picture, with the cover on. Second picture is a WB2 that never had a cover. I have no idea what I did, to make the wrong picture the giant one. Sorry.

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    Buccaneer

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    #271712

    Thanks for the photos Bill. Heading out to the garage now to take a look and
    “think” about the ordeal.

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    green-thumbs

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    #271725

    KB-3, KD-3 and KE-3 routed cooling water differently. First year K-1 and K-2 did not have spark plug covers. KE-3 had cowling without spark plug covers.

    Spark plug covers have limited space, compact spark plug MA& be required as well as small ignition wire boot.

     

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    Buccaneer

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    #271727

    KB-3, KD-3 and KE-3 routed cooling water differently. First year K-1 and K-2 did not have spark plug covers. KE-3 had cowling without spark plug covers.

    Spark plug covers have limited space, compact spark plug MA& be required as well as small ignition wire boot.

     

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    Of course, all the models had to be different, lol.

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    Buccaneer

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    #271728

    I messed around with the tell – tale, and found a way,
    as previous mentioned, to route the plumbing inside of the
    spark plug cup, and out the bottom hole.

    The may not be “correct”, but it should work, and I didn’t
    have to modify the cover.

    I went with 1/4″ tubing. Hopefully that size will allow for
    adequate water flow to cool the cylinder……. the tell – tale
    is the only water “outlet” that I’m aware of.

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    Boonie

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    #271746

    Hey Buccaneer, yes they are repos. Both the same so I had to do some mods for the water pipe. Little bit of grinding. He also makes the recoil covers for the Johnson Javeline.

    That motor was siezed pretty hard. I eventually got it unstuck. Couple replaced pistons and new rings I have 100 lbs on both cylinders. I expect it will go up after I run it.

    it did turn out quite nice.

     


    fifty20ne

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    #271884

    Lou has some good pics!

    Here are some I took A while back from a 1946 Mercury KD-3IMG_4426
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