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  • #315338
    JACQUES
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      there are numerous UTUBES on coil replacement … basically a  magneto overalls.  Under one coil is a small expensive little clip that holds a small felt which is for lubrification of the crankshaft to preventnt wear on the point’s  rubbing blocks .    replace it or at the very least add a few drops of oil   . Some point kits provide felts.    If you don’t have one   you can cut one out of those  sticky felt pads  for furniture. add 2-3 drops of oil (I use GC oil) . Don’t lose the clip !!

      all this stuff is in the bible so  take some time to read  the magneto section before tackling this ” new job” for you .

      same for carbs

       

      after doing all the magneto carb etc…. comes  fine tuning the ignition  not complicated really  you can adjust the points with a VOM, a simple buzzer in series with a 9v battery or a small light bulb also in series

      https://youtu.be/ga1Cjymj6ms

      enjoy! Patience brings joy

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      #315555
      Douglas McQuilken
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        Don,

        quick question about wiring. The internal harness looks complete: two battery cables; a pair for starter and another pair for choke. The starter solenoid is under the cover. Do I still need a junction box? From what I can tell it houses the solenoid……

        #315568
        Don
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          Don,

          quick question about wiring. The internal harness looks complete: two battery cables; a pair for starter and another pair for choke. The starter solenoid is under the cover. Do I still need a junction box? From what I can tell it houses the solenoid……

          It seems like someone has update the wiring and placed the solenoid under the cover.  This model does not have the wiring plug outlet connection on the side either, correct?  If there is no side mounted wiring plug connection, then I’m sure you can rig up a home made wiring harness.  I don’t think these models had a key switch, just two buttons:  “start” and “choke”.  The engine is shut off by pulling the throttle all the way back.

          #315589
          JACQUES
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            what is the status of coil conditon, condenser test. ignition poits   plug wiring etc..   compression #s ?    if it is a 2 wire  start/choke wiring is pretty straight forward  see manual.    Was  this rje18  e/w  generator/charging feature  (some were apparently) ?   or a basic  ob.

             

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            #315598
            Don
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              Oh yeah, forgot about a possible generator…  Generator wiring complicates the wiring issue a great deal.  But, will guess there is no generator because the junction box seems to have been eliminated.  Or, perhaps the generator is there, but not being used/belt removed.

              Did the 6 volt engines even offer a generator option??

              #315599
              JACQUES
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                CHat GPT says yes some had the gen.  option but in any event it  could all be ripped out  and  if you do opt for a 12v starter  and 12v solenoid  modern AGM or Liph batteries will keep you going for a good while( magneto ignition needs no battery juice to work just accessories) .

                You can recharge  when you get back or leave a small solar pannel to  do it .

                if the solenoid  is not abused  (being infrequent use) try a automotive type  resistor in series to drop/limit the voltage.

                 

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                #315632
                Douglas McQuilken
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                  Thanks to you folks, I’m making some progress….

                  Attaching a few photos to hopefully clarify things:

                  1) solenoid?

                  2) choke?

                  3) starter

                  4 side view

                  Internal wiring appears complete: 2 battery cables; 2 starter wires; 2 choke wires.

                  Not sure what purpose a junction box would have for this setup?

                   

                   

                  #315635
                  Douglas McQuilken
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                    Choke?

                    #315637
                    Douglas McQuilken
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                      Choke photo

                      #315646
                      JACQUES
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                        i believe  the junction bocx was just a mounting place for the  generator regulator  output and  space to mount a solenoid. see manual   some juction boxes just mount the solenoid as a mid point between battery and starter  and a few other wires  (start choke ) .

                        if you have not enough room to mount the solenoid you can build your own ” box”  and use proper grommets in drilled holes  to join the engine to the outside world.  see manual

                        you photo of the solenoid looks  like a Mcgiver  system and exposes B+.   that is why  an external housing to mount it would be more appropriate (JMHO)  and safer.  bring engine wiring to the bobx  to meet B+ and GRD as well as control wires for start shoke  stop.

                         

                         

                         

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