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April 17, 2026 at 8:41 am #315678
Very helpful, thanks.
Trying to figure this out one step at a time….
is there a way to determine if they also converted to 12 volt?
Next up is to crank up starter to check compression
April 17, 2026 at 8:47 am #315680If it is a 12v starter….it should be stamped as such.. on the tag….
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classicomctools@gmail.comApril 20, 2026 at 8:17 pm #315989Once again I am confused.
I hooked up a 12 volt battery for testing. Positive to solenoid and negative to block.
I used a patch cable to jump over the solenoid – positive in to positive out. The wire got hot! I used a circuit tester to verify the outbound power cable from the solenoid was negative. I removed the cable from solenoid to starter for further diagnosis. The bolt on the starter is negative as well as the housing. Suggestions for next steps would be appreciated.
April 20, 2026 at 11:35 pm #316000it is normal for the starter IN post to “appear” negative because the other side of the starter armature is in fact connected to the engine frame. This is no diffeent than common light bulbs in the house… One side is ALWAYS on white neutral (ground) and black turns it on from the wall switch (solenoid B+ red in outboards)
the point here is that if you apply B+ to the “seamingly grounded in post”… it will cause current flow into the starter and spin the starter.
if it does not the starter itself is jammed phusically and will cause wires to overheat…. quite normal.
not clear what you did I used a patch cable to jump over the solenoid – positive in to positive out. but if you connected the solenoid main B+ in post from the battery …. manually to the solenoid B+ out post to the starter with a small gauge wire off course it will heat up due the high amperage load consumed by the starter.
SO…the question here is .. does the starter spin or not if you apply B+ off the battery directly on the starter B+ in post.
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April 21, 2026 at 8:04 am #316033Like others have said, that solenoid positioning looks very dangerous, it would be quite easy to short the battery positive lead to ground during cover removal/installation. That solenoid might be messed up as well.
You might want to bypass that solenoid for now by wiring the battery directly to the starter and tapping the negative lead to the battery post temporarily to test the starter. Please be very careful, do this outside wearing eye protection and some gloves, make sure there is a fire extinguisher handy. A shorted starter motor could overheat the wires/battery, causing a fire/battery explosion. Perhaps one of the engine’s battery cables is damaged causing a short to ground as well. Be careful….
PS: I am assuming the powerhead is not jammed up preventing the starter from spinning as well.
April 21, 2026 at 11:59 am #316059UPDATE
thanks to both for the suggestion to wire directly from battery to starter ( I should have started here).
In any case, the starter remains unresponsive. I even tried a few hammer taps while connected.
After disconnecting power the starter turns easily by hand.
While starter has not engaged flywheel yet, the pistons are free.
April 21, 2026 at 12:09 pm #316062brushes may simply be worn. the starter since it is defective based on your conclusion… you may as well take it apart and replace the brushes and clean the contact surfaces….visit some utubes on how to rebuild it ( assuming nothing else is wrong with it) ..
hopefully when you applied B+ the starter main IN post ……. the starter was properly grounded to the engine frame and the battery B- was hooked up to the the engine ground lug to complete the cirruit.
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April 21, 2026 at 5:37 pm #316086Make sure the battery cables are good also, may be corroded/split, etc.
I guess the next step would be to remove the starter and “bench test” it. In other words applying battery power directly to the starter with decent jumper cables.
Perhaps the brushes are just stuck or dirty. I’m not sure how to identify a 6 volt vs 12 volt starter, but there will probably be some sort of label on it.
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