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  • #16741
    debe
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      Very neat looking.

      #16777
      weedlessdrive
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        quote debe:

        If you go to Photo bucket debe5 there is a video of my home made module on a running Victa 2stroke lawn mower. Also pictures of my outboard with the module on to see if they worked & they do. If you want to go in to the theory of how they work, read the US patent refered to in a previous post. It has taken me over 2 years to find a suitable transistor (2SD1071) that would work in this circuit. I found on some Ignition systems the transistor would break down. To over come this I added the 15KE200A to reduce the high voltage spikes. This then made the module reliable.

        How is 15KE200A soldered in? I can’t tell where the leads go to on it?
        Thanks
        Marty

        #16779
        debe
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          The white band end goes to the Collector of the transistor & the other end goes to the Emitter.

          #16792
          legendre
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            quote WeedlessDrive:

            Garry this is Ken W’s module. I would like to see how it’s done though. He obviously has some great skills.

            It looks to be built on a piece of generic proto board with plated-through holes. The letters along the edge are probably part of a longer alphabetic sequence, used to aid the builder in laying out and documenting the circuit. It may also have had a sequence of numbers printed along the other edge of the complete board.

            Incidentally, the high-voltage Darlington transistors have arrived, ten pieces total. If anyone is interested in building a module, go ahead and PM me, and I’ll ship you a couple for my cost.

            ETA: I have the 1N6303A / 15KE200A diodes on order, and would be happy to include them in a packet, for anyone interested in building up one or more of these modules.

            #16800
            ken-w
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              The proto board was found on eBay, I cut into holes16x16. Awaiting for the big diode so the layout will change a little. Still have not tested so this package might not work, still trying to figure out to mount this baby.

              #16807
              debe
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                What I use to test a module before seting it in resin, is I use a test unit which is an old Seagull engine with out the barrel & piston clamped in a vice. Usualy just pull it over with a starting cord is all that’s needed. When I was checking for higher speed reliability on the bench, used an electric drill to drive it. The ultimate test was the video of using it on a lawnmower for over an hour cutting grass on a hot day.

                #16814
                legendre
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                  I went ahead and ordered 10 pcs. of the 1N6303A / 15KE200A diodes, as they are also key to the design. These should show up sometime in the next week.

                  Again my offer is open – if anyone wants to experiment with building module(s), I’ll be happy to send these parts out at my own cost – no markup.

                  #16818
                  weedlessdrive
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                    I’m having a hard time finding the .47uf capacitor that looks like the one in the picture.

                    #16821
                    debe
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                      Doesn’t matter if it doesn’t look the same, so long as its .47uf 50v should be ok. I used 100v as they were physicaly quite small.

                      #16870
                      legendre
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                        Hey debe (or anyone who knows),

                        The batch of 2SD1071s I received are measuring with a β of around 20 on my automagic component tester. The data sheet gives one spec for β, and it’s a +minimum+ of 500.

                        Is this tester artifact? Perhaps something caused by the internal diodes, one of which is a Zener, tripping up the tester? The error is a factor of 25…

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