Topic: 1926 Elto Super G – Page 2 – Antique Outboard Motor Club,Inc

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September 28, 2022 at 6:03 pm #266848
Tfelty
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I checked the points. They were gapped less than .008. I opened them up to .010 and verified it still has spark. When reassembled it still acts the same, and I’m certain I’m flipping in the correct direction. I flip maybe twice and get the pop. It pops for another 4-5 flips and then floods. I turn off mixing screw, a few more dead flips and start getting pops again. After a few pops I get the flame thrower out of the exhaust. It wants to start, but I’m obviously missing something.
September 28, 2022 at 6:26 pm #266861
Buccaneer
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It shouldn’t be necessary, but I had better luck after I purchased a second 6V game cam
battery, and wired them in parallel.

Prepare to be boarded!
September 28, 2022 at 9:09 pm #266873
The Boat House
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Without having access to the motor its difficulty
for me to under stand what “pop” means. What is
the location of the knob on the flywheel when it
pops? The location of the timer. Have you tried to
advance or retard the timer a little. What was the
result. Same with the mixture screw. What direction
is the flywheel turning when it pops? Does it change
direction when it pops? However these things
start pretty easily and I would think you would have
stumbled on a setting where it would start for a few
rotations anyway. So I’m going to speculate that you
passably have a trimming issue. This could be because
you have the wrong flywheel or the strap, (thing that
connects the eccentric on the flywheel to the timer) is
the wrong length. Check to see if it looks like a home
made replacement. Pistons facing the wrong way is
something that should be investigated. I’ll be away
from home for a couple weeks. If you have more
questions, I’m not ignoring you. Time I spend on the
computer will be determined by the weather.
Tubs.
September 28, 2022 at 9:52 pm #266877
Tfelty
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I stand corrected that the point gap change didn’t help. Once my arm recovered I tried again. This time I got closer than ever. I had at least 3 full rotations on one flip, and then at least two again, but then the dang thing flooded again and my arm was going to fall off. Knob is centered on the back, and then flipped left. I’m sure I’m doing this correct. When I say pop means the plug fired and flung the flywheel to the right.
September 28, 2022 at 10:40 pm #266878
The Boat House
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If your saying it pops out of your hand when
you pulled it back and goes to the right (clockwise).
you need to move the timer more to the right –
counter clockwise. If its flooding after only
2 or 3 tries you need to open the mixture screw less.
Did you watch the starting video I posted above?
Noticed the location of the timer? How I advanced
the timing a little?
Tubs.
September 28, 2022 at 11:04 pm #266880
HARRY D. NICHOLSON
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In a quiet place, remove the spark plugs, slowly rotate the flywheel clockwise. You should hear the timer click when the knob is a couple inches away from approaching the timer lever position. It doesn’t matter where the timer lever is for this.

Next test, with a tiny flashlight, look at both pistons when they are extended all the way. The intake side of each piston should now be easily viewed. The intake side is opposite the exhaust side which is easier to describe: the exhaust side is the long shallow sloping side which should be facing the rear (not seen)..
- This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by HARRY D. NICHOLSON.
September 29, 2022 at 11:50 am #266893
Tfelty
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Pretty sure I’ve watched every YouTube videos on Elto. It is so close. I’m sure I’m missing something simple. I’ve adjusted the timer left and right. I’ve always gotten closer at the 7 o’clock position. The closest I’ve got when it ran for three rotations was at 7 timer position, 1.25 mixing screw, it was hitting. I accidentally charged the cylinders about three times when I repositioned the flywheel. When I flipped it that time I thought she was going to take off. A few more tries and it flooded again. So close, but so far away. I’ll post a video.
September 29, 2022 at 1:18 pm #266894
HARRY D. NICHOLSON
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When you remove spark plugs, you should see the intake side of the piston.

I think your battery is at fault. One member uses a bunch of D flashlight batteries hooked together for the right voltage and capacity. Amps are needed and not just voltage.

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Tfelty
September 29, 2022 at 7:40 pm #266910
Tfelty
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Unfortunately, new higher amp battery setup had no impact. Verified piston position is correct. Opened up point gap to .012 and still the exact same. I can clearly hear the snap of the points. Everything on this motor is clearly original. It was a great barn fine with the exception of running. Other than faster flooding there is no difference between mixing screw at .5 to 1.5. When I freed up the pistons the seals fell apart. I replaced the gaskets on the jugs and carb with the same Fel-Pro automotive gasket material. Could that create any of these issues?
September 29, 2022 at 10:24 pm #266934
HARRY D. NICHOLSON
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One more thing: A model G has a choke on the left side of the carb. It could be stuck shut or some other problem. Needs investigation.
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