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August 15, 2018 at 5:02 pm #10861
hey all,
new to the forum, thanks for having me.ive got several OMC motors, but the ones in question at the moment are a 62′ Johnson 28 hp, a 63 Evinrude speditwin 28hp and a 66′ evinrude skitwin 33 hp. i understand the old bushed crank shaft motors required a very thick oil mixture to prolong their life. my 57′ 3hp sea horse requires 16:1 mixture it is my understanding that the pre 65′ larger motors, like my 28s had roller bearings, and there were very little changes between engine design from 64-65. so my question is why the change in oil mixture? is it that OMC was reacting to pressure because Mercs were already using 50:1? were they experimenting with it pre 65′ and finally were satisfied it would work? was it the advent of better oil?
i may try some biodegradable 2 stroke in my older models but i wondered what the thoughts were in using 50:1 in the earlier 60s motors?
SethAugust 15, 2018 at 6:39 pm #81215I heard it Straight from an Evinrude engineer’s mouth. "We just found out that they didn’t need as much oil as we thought they did". Seriously, the change to 50:1 came with the introduction of Evinrude/Johnson 50:1 oil in 1964. Scott-Atwater was already marketing 100-1 at the time. So yes marketing pressure did have something to do with it. Somebody will correct me if I’m wrong, but I think Mercury 50:1 came later.
Yeah, you can run 50:1 TC-W3 in your 28-33hp motors. Somebody is sure to argue on that.
August 15, 2018 at 6:54 pm #81219I think mercury 50-1 came first.
August 15, 2018 at 7:10 pm #81224August 15, 2018 at 7:15 pm #81226quote Dave Bernard:I think mercury 50-1 came first.I won’t argue that. But somebody back in the day advertised that their motors were built like a fine watch and needed more oil than those sloppily built OMC’s. I thought it was Merc.
August 15, 2018 at 7:37 pm #81227Our mission in this club is to preserve
these historical motors.
So why not treat them to a little more lubrication?
Just my thoughts.Steve A W
Member of the MOB chapter.
I live in Northwest IndianaAugust 15, 2018 at 7:41 pm #81228I knew better than to get into an oil discussion, but did it anyway. Dang me!
August 15, 2018 at 7:45 pm #81229quote FrankR:I knew better than to get into an oil discussion, but did it anyway. Dang me!Frank, I started to reply to this thread…5 times…… each time backspacing out of my reply…LOL
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classicomctools@gmail.comAugust 15, 2018 at 8:06 pm #81231August 15, 2018 at 9:03 pm #81238OMC’s should not use 50-1 unless they have needle and ball bearings like a fine watch. FULL JEWLED.
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