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    Tfelty
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      US Member - 2 Years

      Is there anything suspect in the carb? Do the two caps on the top of the carb come off? I tried, but they want to strip so I stopped. The mixing screw opens and closes. The poppets freely pop and spring back. Is there anything else to look at in it?

      #267089
      The Boat House
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        Yes the caps come off. Just some springs above the valves.
        When it’s flooded and you shut the mixture screw all the way
        the motor should start after a bit and run a little till all the
        gas is burned up. Yours doesn’t. The carb has been pretty
        much eliminated here. If there is an issue with your carburetor
        you won’t know till you can get it to start. Unless there is
        some damage, dirt is about the only thing that could give you
        a problem. Not much to it.
        Tubs
        .

        #267106
        The Boat House
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          Misspoke about about the carb couldn’t be the problem. It still needs to control the air.
          The fact that the caps are torn up is an indicator that someone who had no idea what
          he was doing has been into this motor. You need to remove the caps and check they
          are not cross threaded and they have gaskets, any indication the springs have been
          meas with, or any damage to the valves or seats so the cant seal. If the valves don’t
          seal it won’t start.
          Tubs
          .

          #267112
          Buccaneer
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            US Member

            I had one motor (Caille or Wisconsin) that the poppet valve guide was so sloppy
            I suspected was the possible a “no-start” issue. When a new poppet valve was
            made with an oversized stem, it ran.

            Prepare to be boarded!

            #267114
            The Boat House
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              I was running a Speedster, that wasn’t having any starting or running issues,
              when I noticed one of the valve stems was missing. No idea how long it had
              been gone. As I was 1400+ miles from home and the seat was also damaged.
              I just put it back together. It ran fine for another 4 or 5 days before it started
              to show signs that it was time to take it off the boat before I ended up rowing
              back. In my experience there would really need to be some obvious damage
              if it is the mixer. These aren’t really a carburetor.
              Tubs
              .

              #267117
              Buccaneer
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                US Member

                Wow, that one was really messed up Tubs…… just shows how tough
                Ole’s motor’s were!

                Prepare to be boarded!

                #267126
                The Boat House
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                  I know I ran it at least 8 hours after I found the stem was
                  missing and have no idea how long it ran before that.
                  I was beginning to think it would last the summer but
                  when it started missing now and then I thought it best
                  to run something else as I’m not a big fan of rowing.
                  Tubs
                  .

                  #267160
                  Tfelty
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                    US Member - 2 Years

                    I had hoped to post a video of the motor running, however; I’m still not there. The condenser was definitely an issue. It sounds like a 2 cycle now when it hits. I never should have messed with the points. I’m having trouble getting them set back correctly. I get them set and tight, but they are somehow moving. I got so close that the motor actually ran for about a second. It wants to run!

                    #267189
                    HARRY D. NICHOLSON
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                      US Member - 2 Years

                      Maybe the iron case is moving, never mind.  That would just affect the timing, not the point gap. I believe Elto recommends using shims to set the gap.

                      #267283
                      Tfelty
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                        US Member - 2 Years

                        I’ve taken the points from high gap to low and back and forth again. I’ve got it to run a second or two a few times but then that is it. Pulling the caps off the carb is all I can think of left to see what is going on in there. Can you show the tool / method that you got the caps off?

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